Present: Alex, Heather, Joanne, Karl, Leon, Pisa (sorry I can't be more specific), Richard, Toby, Tracy, Traudl
Action Items, an Action Item: A new Action Items section will appear at the bottom of these Minutes whenever there is something to put in it.
PDR Outcome: (Richard) Our part went about as well as we could hope for. The draft report (it's not yet publicly available) had 5 recommendations whose slant generally was that we need to increase manpower in several areas (e.g. for providing science tools, help for Toby in his System Architect hat, fill proposed user support position, etc.). They recommended we be baselined, which is to say we passed.
LAT-wide the review was also generally quite positive. See a message from Tune to the IDT list including copies of all the closeout slides. There were three areas which will have to do a make-up: thermal design (radiators not currently to spec), ACD (problems associated with its late start) and CAL (because of management difficulties in France).
Documentation Task Force: (Heather) We had our first meeting yesterday. See the copious minutes (it was a long meeting) for details. Some highlights:
The templates package is close to done and ready for release.
Mark brought up a scope issue: to what extent do we need to work with SSC on these standards? It was agreed that there are significant areas of ovelap and, for those areas at least, we need to be talking to someone from SSC. Heather has already started to put this together.
Enforcement. All agreed compliance will be spotty at best without some form of enforcement, but that it was unrealistic to expect that we can do a thorough job of review/policing. Some spot-checking, especially of crucial packages like the Recons, would be helpful, both to give feedback to the owners of the packages and to give us some idea of how big a job comprehensive reviews would be.
The Documentation Task Force home page has links to several items of general interest, including the templates package and the drafts of several documents in progress. The one on code documentation recommendations is furthest along.
Data Structures Task Force: (Leon) Two meetings have been held already. The meeting time (Monday at 8:30 AM) is a problem for several people and could change. You can get to the minutes and other pertinent information from here. Some highlights:
It would be nice to have some uniformity in naming, etc., among the different subsystems, but it's not easy since there are intrinsic differences.
Heather gave a talk on ROOT, which engendered questions of how we decided to use ROOT for persistency, and more generally a plea for requirements documents for this and perhaps other areas.
Core Issues: (Toby) See details in his report. The discussion was difficult to conduct since Toby was mute. Some points that were covered:
Upgrades of underpinnings: Alex has been using CMT v1r10 on Linux for a month without show-stopping glitches. It's fine on Windows according to Toby. We also need to get moving on the new release of Gaude, v9r01.
How to allow concurrent development. We need to minimize dependence on the HEAD (rather than an appropriately-tagged version) of a package by developers who are merely using the package while doing their real development elsewhere.
Release Packaging: (Alex) A Linux binary package for pdrApp, v7r1, is on its way. Madhup is working on a snazzy Windows installer.
Help from Italy: (Richard) The Italians are in principle willing to provide more manpower to the Core group, most likely from Pisa. We need to find areas where they can most usefully help. ROOT is one good candidate.
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